Pakistani politican wants to add anti-Ahmadiyya chapter in school syllabus

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• These most stupid politicians in Pakistan as still they are suffering from the results of declared Ahmadies none Muslims, now this is the result that everyone is Kafir according to each other faith and ready to kill each other. These politicians forget the end of both Bhuto and Zia who trying to finish Ahmadiya. They will face same end of their lives. Insha Allah. May Allah open their eyes and bless our country with peace and happiness. Aamin

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• It's a good thing that, that politician added that it is the 'Pakistani constitution' that considers us non-Muslims and NOT Islamic teachings themselves, Alhamdulillah!

  These people are so half-baked in their knowledge of Islam it boggles my mind. Yet, they have the temerity to call themselves the 'devotees' of the Holy Prophet (pbuh), about whom they know very little or nothing at all.

  For if they knew about the true teachings of Islam, they would NOT dare call ANYBODY a non-Muslim who called themselves Muslims.

  Without references from the Qur'an and Traditions they announce fatwas to suit their own personal ambitions. May Allah have mercy of these ignoramuses, for they know not what they are talking about and the consequences of their hate speech!

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• The pakistani government are doing efforts till the establishment of pakistan to eradicate AhmadiyyaCommunity but whst happened ? Nothing. The Community is growing faster and faster. So please if you want to stop this then defeat the Ahmadiyyat by logics and evidence. Call your Islamic scholars to debate with the Ahmadis and probed them liars according to the HolyQuran and Sunnah. I hope you can unterstand this because COMMON SENSE IS A COMMON WHICH IS NOT COMMON INCOMMON. If you have come sense then come forward and do this.

• We are really leaving in a world of confusion, these people dont even know what else to do for the betterment of their country. Allow them to plan, Allah is also planning and He is the best of the planners.

• What a stupid announcement by politicians. They don't think and may be they don't have ability to assess the reasons of national deterioration and country's decline since 70's.extremism promotion is the nightmare of my beloved homel

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• Dear All

  I think that AHMADDIYAs should review the teachings of GHULAM AHMED QADIANI and also analyze his abusive and vulgar language used by him in his religious books. Then all QADIANIs should make decision regarding whether they are on path of salvation or not. If you could not be able to find such abusive and vulgar language references then you may contact me. I will give you exact references from the books of your so called PROMISED MESSIAH and whatsoever. Question of his prophecy or messiah is second issue, first issue is the character of the person who is claiming that I have been sent by ALMIGHTY ALLAH and imposing allegations on the BELOVED PROPHET HAZRAT ESA A.S of ALMIGHTY ALLAH.

• Dear Mr. Shan Ibrahim: Please share with us the "abusive and vulgar language" by Hazrat Mirza. We want to know the truth. I am not an Ahmadi or Qadiani but I am trying to use a respectful language and tone, while discussing with them [Ahmadis] about their faith. Because I myself want all the people who do not belong to my faith use respectful language and tone when discussing my faith. So brother, my recommendations for you is to use a respectful language and tone while discussing with the people who do not belong to your faith. Imagine, how would you feel if someone uses derogatory language about the very respectful personalities of your faith while discussing with you - you can not drag someone for blasphemy on the internet.

  Dear Mr. Zarif Ahmad: You mentioned earlier that Ahmadis get offended if called Qadiani. I really do not see a point in it. For example, Prophet Mohammed [PBUM] is also called Mohammed Al-Arabi and no one gets offended. Al-Arabi means an Arab. Now there are all type of Arabs do exist, muslims, non-muslims, good and bad. So there is nothing derogatory for being called Al-Arabi.

• Dear Shan Ibrahim,

  I have read (English translations), the books of the Promised Messiah (as), and I don't find any abusive language in them. Also, if his claim was not true, Allah, would have punished him immediately as it says in the Holy Qur'an that one who talks in His name falsely would be destroyed. Please, read up on the Holy Qur'an...

  Instead, what do you find - our jama'at has grown in leaps and bounds over the years and it is now over a 125 years old and still growing with His Blessings, Alhamdulillah!

  In fact, I was not an Ahmadi but, have become one and have not regretted the decision even once over the years. And one of the reasons for becoming an Ahmadi was that their version of Islam was the ONLY one that made perfect sense. They also apply reasoning in what they follow and don't preach hate and hell-fire from their pulpits as others do.

  What impressed me the most was the fact, when I asked our local missionary here if he could help me make a decision on what to follow, and he replied by telling me to pray to Allah for guidance.

  Unfortunately, for the rest of the Muslim, Christian and Hindu communities, none of these even remotely involved God in their decision making. They would all tell me that if I followed them, I would acquire heaven or nirvana.

  Btw, what allegations is the Promised Messiah (as), supposed to have made about Issa (as), may we know? Please, read those books yourself instead of writing here at the behest of some thick-headed mullah. Don't rely on others for your (mis)information.

  Like, I had been told, that the Ahmadi Qur'an is different as is our Adhan and prayers. When I actually went to their mosque, I found that all this daft propaganda was not true. Hence, it led me to question the motives of the people who make these allegations. So, I would suggest that you use your own God given brain to find the truth.

• Dear Mr. Zarif / You are most welcome. Please also read my previous post that is addressed to the M.Ali in which I raise two questions that you should need to ask your preachers what is the faith of the MUJADDID (REMADE) of last 13th centuries before the birth of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed regarding the Descent of the Hazrat Esa Allaihi Salam and the End of the prophecy on Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W. (List of the whole world MUJADDIDs were published by Mirza Khuda Bukhsh of your community)
  Further, you should also ask your preachers what meaning of those verses have been mentioned by the ILLUSTRATORS AND EXPLANATORS of the Qur'an before the birth of Mirza GhulamAhmed that are presented by your community as an argument of death of Hazrat Esa Allaihi Salam and continuity of the prophecy.
  Research on these questions with full devotion. you will find out the right path.

  Regards

• Dear M. Ali / May Allah be your protector!

  I think you don’t want to discuss this topic and you have the right to choose the path that you feel right. I just want to request one thing that verses of the Qur’an that are quoted by your community preacher in relation to the following faiths, should be confirmed, that are:
  1. Descent of Hazrat Esa A.S
  2. End of the Prophecy
  These verses should be confirmed from any of the following Qur’an explanatory books.
  1. Rooh ul Ma’ani
  2. Tibri
  3. Tafseer e Raazi
  4. Jalalain
  5. Dur e Mansoor
  I am referring you aforementioned books because:
  • Aforementioned illustrators / translators are considered as MUJADDID (Remade) by your community (Reference name of aforementioned illustrators / translators are written in abook named ASAL-E-MUSAFFA Volume 1 and Page 162 to 165; Written by one of the follower of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed named Mirza Khuda Bukhsh; Book is also endorsed by Mirza Ghulam Ahmed)
  • All the above illustrators / translators wrote translation and explanatory notes on the verses of the Qur’an before the birth of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed
  • Aforementioned books are widely accepted and easily available and you may find out English translation also.
  • Before the birth of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, 13 centuries elapsed and it is not possible that knowledge and understanding of the Qur’an was deficient till the birth of the Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed wrote in his book that Meanings and Knowledge of the Qur’an is bestowed to the UMMAH (believers of the Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W) since the revelation of the Qur’an. “This book is available to the Muslim community since 14th centuries, likewise knowledge of this book is also found in the Muslim community”. (Ref: Khazain Vol 14; Page 288)
  For the correct meanings and knowledge of the verses of the Qur’an you may consult any of the aforementioned Qur’an Illustration Books or you may study the faith of the MUJADDID (Remade) before the birth of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed regarding Descent of Hazrat Esa before the Judgment day and End of the Prophecy on the Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W
  I guarantee you all the MUJADDID (Remade) whose name are enlisted in a book published under the authority of your community believes that
  1. Hazrat Esa A.S will be sent back by Almighty Allah and He is alive.
  2. Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W is the last prophet of Allah
  Now you have to decide whether Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is liar or all the MUJADDID (Remade) of last 13 centuries were liars.
  For your kind perusal, I want to tell you one more lie of your so called Mirza Ghulam Ahmed that he initially said in his book (Reference Khazain Vol 3 Page 54) “Death of Hazrat Esa A.S in Qur’an is discussed in three places”. After few days, he wrote in his book (Reference Khazain Vol 3 Page 423) “It is proved from 30 verses of the Qur’an that Hazrat Esa A.S is dead”. Furthermore, one of the believer of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed named Mirza Khuda Bukhsh wrote in his book (Reference: ASAL-E-MUSAFFA Volume 1 and Page 7) “60 verses of the Qur’an proved that Hazrat Esa A.S is dead”.

  May God protect you

  Shan Ibrahim

• @Shan Ibrahim Please don't loose patience, I have Internet problem, Insha Allah I will soon, (may be up-to a weeks time) come to you. The couplet of Hzrat Msih-e-Mauood Alaih slam you wrote as objection is wonderful and written in humbleness, and extreme humility and does not mean at all, as you translated them. Zarif Ahmad

• Mr. M.Ali

  The real problem that I am facing is that your Messiah has written books in URDU and ARABIC language. I am trying to get access of those books in English translation. Without references from your MESSIAH books our whole discussion will be futile. I have promised in my very initial conversation that I will show you references of vulgar and abusive language of your Messiah and allegations imposed by your MESSIAH on beloved Prophet Hazrat Esa A.S. I am still keeping my words but facing the same problem of the translation of those references, so that it becomes understandable for you.

  Further, you want to know the beliefs of us regarding the restoration of the life of Hazrat Esa A.S. Our beliefs are quite simple in this regards. Hazrat Esa is still alive and near the day of Judgment Allah will send him. What are the signs of him, we believe in the sayings of our beloved Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. Mishkaat Shareef is the famous book of Hadeeth, in volume 3 of this book, Hadeeth No 5269; Hazrat Abu Huraira R.A quotes that Hadeeth in which signs are clearly mentioned and these are:

  1. Promised Messiah will be the son of Mary A.S
  2. He will be the just ruler
  3. Cross-Sign (crusade sign) will be broken by him
  4. He will kill the pigs
  5. Islam will be accepted by the whole world
  6. People in his Era becomes so much rich

  Further one more sign that is usually quoted is that he will kill the ANTI-CHRIST (DAJJAL)

  Unfortunately, no one can prove any single sign in Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. So, we need the MESSIAH that is described in Hadeeth.

  Everybody knows that:

  1.Mirza is not the son of the Hazrat Mary A.S
  2.Mirza was not the ruler. Actually he and his father were the servants of British Government
  3.MIrza has not broken the cross-sign
  4.Pigs are still alive
  5.After the birth of the Mirza, despite of spreading Islam all over the world. No Muslim remains in this world technically. Since Lahori believers of Mirza call Qadiani Believers Kaafir and Qadiani believers call Lahori believers Kaafir. Further, remaining muslim became Kaafir because they do not accept the prophecy of Mirza

  So, we are waiting for the PROMISED MESSIAH

  Furthermore, I still don't agree with your philosophy of an immediate punishment. For the time being if we accept that Allah punishes the wrong doers immediately then just tell me one thing why pharaoh (firo'un) of egypt was not punished upto 300 years. Pharaoh claimed that they are the biggest God. Almighty Allah punished only the last pharaoh to whom Hazrat Mosa was sent. Why Allah has not punished the pharaohs before the last one.

  You have quoted the verses from the Quran, it does not say that wrong doers, sinners, false claimers and brother of devils shall be punished immediately in this world. All verses refer the punishment of the Judgment day.

  This world is just like examination hall. Allah will not punish the sinners here. Punishment and reward day is the Judgment day.

  Regards

  Mr. M.Ali

  The real problem that I am facing is that your Messiah has written books in URDU and ARABIC language. I am trying to get access of those books in English translation. Without references from your MESSIAH books our whole discussion will be futile. I have promised in my very initial conversation that I will show you references of vulgar and abusive language of your Messiah and allegations imposed by your MESSIAH on beloved Prophet Hazrat Esa A.S. I am still keeping my words but facing the same problem of the translation of those references, so that it becomes understandable for you.

  Further, you want to know the beliefs of us regarding the restoration of the life of Hazrat Esa A.S. Our beliefs are quite simple in this regards. Hazrat Esa is still alive and near the day of Judgment Allah will send him. What are the signs of him, we believe in the sayings of our beloved Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. Mishkaat Shareef is the famous book of Hadeeth, in volume 3 of this book, Hadeeth No 5269; Hazrat Abu Huraira R.A quotes that Hadeeth in which signs are clearly mentioned and these are:

  1. Promised Messiah will be the son of Mary A.S
  2. He will be the just ruler
  3. Cross-Sign (crusade sign) will be broken by him
  4. He will kill the pigs
  5. Islam will be accepted by the whole world
  6. People in his Era becomes so much rich

  Further one more sign that is usually quoted is that he will kill the ANTI-CHRIST (DAJJAL)

  Unfortunately, no one can prove any single sign in Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. So, we need the MESSIAH that is described in Hadeeth.

  Everybody knows that:

  1.Mirza is not the son of the Hazrat Mary A.S
  2.Mirza was not the ruler. Actually he and his father were the servants of British Government
  3.MIrza has not broken the cross-sign
  4.Pigs are still alive
  5.After the birth of the Mirza, despite of spreading Islam all over the world. No Muslim remains in this world technically. Since Lahori believers of Mirza call Qadiani Believers Kaafir and Qadiani believers call Lahori believers Kaafir. Further, remaining muslim became Kaafir because they do not accept the prophecy of Mirza

  So, we are waiting for the PROMISED MESSIAH

  Furthermore, I still don't agree with your philosophy of an immediate punishment. For the time being if we accept that Allah punishes the wrong doers immediately then just tell me one thing why pharaoh (firo'un) of egypt was not punished upto 300 years. Pharaoh claimed that they are the biggest God. Almighty Allah punished only the last pharaoh to whom Hazrat Mosa was sent. Why Allah has not punished the pharaohs before the last one.

  You have quoted the verses from the Quran, it does not say that wrong doers, sinners, false claimers and brother of devils shall be punished immediately in this world. All verses refer the punishment of the Judgment day.

  This world is just like examination hall. Allah will not punish the sinners here. Punishment and reward day is the Judgment day.

  Regards

• Mr. Zarif Ahmed

  You have quoted Ayah from Surah Lahab whose English Translation is:

  "Around her neck, there is (a collar of iron, like) a well-twisted rope"

  Second reference you have given from Surah Qalam Verse 13

  "harsh, (and) after all that, notorious,"

  In your third reference the meaning of that word is "worshiper of TAGHOOT" some thing like that:

  I find nothing wrong in it. Even that any neutral person says these words are right.

  Further, your mirza has used straight forward vulgar language. If I say some one person that you are bastard or you are born with out wedlock or your mother is bitch or you are son of prostitute or whore. How would he feel?

  This is the way of teachings someone.

  Your real problem is that your MESSIAH has written book in URDU and ARABIC language. I have read many chunks of his books and I found that his books are useless.

  One more reference for your satisfaction from his book "Baraheen e Ahmaddiya Volume 5 Page 97; Khazain Volume 21 and Page 127) Mirza wrote a stanza in Urdu. First of all I would quote his exact stanza in his Urdu language then translate it into English. Reference will help you to check the authenticity and words will enable you to get it translated from any neutral person

  کرم خاکی ہوں میرے پیارے نہ آدم زاد ہوں"
  "ہوں بشر کی جاءے نفرت اور انسانوں کی عار

  I have mentioned exact words of his stanza. I am translating it into English if you feel that this translation is wrong then you have the exact words of Mirza get it translated from any trusted URDU translator

  Mirza says that I am not the human being, I am the private part of the human being.

  What are the private parts you know it well

  Regards

• Qadiani Brother

  Where you have lost?

• Assalamu alaikum, Shan Ibrahim!

  I am not lost or trying to evade you and your comments. It's just that we have been having power outages since the weekend and yesterday, it was gone nearly the whole day and therefore have not been online for about 2 days and that is why have not been reading your comments, till now.

  No, I do not know Urdu.

  Regarding the reference to the verse I had mentioned earlier. it is - And if he had falsely attributed even a trivial statement to Us, We would surely have seized him by the right hand, - Al- Haqqah, 69:45-46

  Then, 'And surely, who forges a lie shall perish' - Ta Ha, 20-62

  And again, 'Surely those who forge a lie against Allah do not prosper' - An-Nahl, 16:117

  Then your various comments above referring to various books of the Promised Messiah (as), I would suggest that you read just one more book, or rather booklet called 'A GIFT TO AN-NADWAH', where you will find many answers to your allegations.

  This booklet is an answer to one Hafiz Muhammad Yusuf who had, like you, claimed that false prophets would and can succeed, etc. Therefore, the Promised Messiah (as), has written an answer to him. It is so tailor-made for you, too.

  Oh, and you will also notice that there is not a single abusive word or language used in the entire book.

  Whatever you've read seems to have been taken out of context (as usual). I never claimed to have read ALL the books of the Promised Messiah (as), but, all the ones that I have read (and they are quite a few), NONE have abusive language used in them least of all for ANY of Allah's prophets (peace be upon them all).

  There is also the matter of our Jama'at increasing in number since it was founded. IF, the founder was a false one, would it have met with such success for over a century?

  You have not responded to my questions to you regarding Issa (as), and his re-advent. Please, do so.

• Dear M. Ali

  Where are you lost? You have made a very massive entrance and now you are not replying. Still, I have to show you further references of your MESSIAH. Where are you?

  Shan Ibrahim

• Brother you have still not replied whether you can understand Urdu language or not.
  I am quoting you exact references of abusive and vulgar language of MIRZA GHULAM AHMED QADIANI from his written URDU and ARABIC books. Further, I, honestly, translate such references in ENGLISH for your understanding. If you feel that I have quoted you wrong reference or translation is manipulated by me. You are allowed to argue me I shall be available:
  REFERENCE 1 (BOOK ANWAR UL ISLAM PAGE 30; ROOHANI KHAZAIN PAGE 31 AND VOLUME 9): "A person who does not admit or accept our success, it will be considered explicitly that he wants to be Bastard"
  REFERENCE 2 (BOOK AYENA KAMALAT E ISLAM PAGE 547 & 548; ROOHANI KHAZAIN PAGE 547 & 548 AND VOLUME 5): "My all books are loved by every muslim and take benefits from them and endorse and accept my teachings except sons of prostitutes do not accept my teachings"
  REFERENCE 3 (NAJAM UL HUDA PAGE 53; ROOHANI KHAZAIN PAGE 53 AND VOLUME 14): "Enemies are pig of our jungle and their wives are more than bitch"

  These are few samples of MIRZA GHULAM AHMED TEACHINGS, your PROMISED MESSIAH and whatsoever.
  Your PROMISED MESSIAH has disrespect the beloved prophet of Allah. I shall give you references in next post. Further, if you feel that aforementioned samples are few, I am here to provide you further.

  Regards

• بسم اللہ الرحمن الرحیم Mr. Shan Ibrahim: We are in the process of Moving and unfortunately at this time Original روحانی خزائین are not available at this time, every language has its own phrases and they are never literary translated and Arabic is not an exception to it like, ابن السبیل , likewise ذریعۃ البغایہ not necessarily means children of prostitutes, it could mean worldly or illiterate people who have had no touch of spirituality. If this be vulgar language for you, what you will say about Holy Quran using the phrases of abu-lahab, فی جید ہا حبل من۔۔ and بعد ذالک زنیم and عبد الطاغوت there could be found many more such phrases in the Holy Quran, if that is vulgar language???. Every thing should be seen in its own perspectives. Zarif Ahmad

• If we discuss first the second question in which your exact words are:

  "if his claim was not true, Allah, would have punished him immediately as it says in the Holy Qur’an that one who talks in His name falsely would be destroyed. Please, read up on the Holy Qur’an"

  First of all, you have not mentioned the reference of the verse

  Secondly, in accordance to my knowledge of the Qur'an, I have not come across any single verse in which Qur'an says that any person talks in His name falsely would be destroyed immediately. The word immediately is quite amazing for me.

  Think for a minute, if all the wrong doers or sinners or specific sinners are punished immediately in this world, So the concept of testing the human being will be of no use. Allah says in the Holy Qur'an, Surah 77 verse 2:

  "the One who created death and life, so that He may test you as to which of you is better in his deeds. And He is the All-Mighty, the Most-Forgiving"

  Claim of the prophecy after the Last Prophet Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W is one of the biggest TESTS of the human beings, If MIRZA GHULAM AHMED QADIANI would have been punished immediately means in front of the eyes of his believers, then all believers would turn their face towards the right path. If such things become happened then there will be no use of TESTING the human beings. Concept of DEVIL becomes useless, concept of heaven and hell becomes useless.

  Further, such claims are made by many other persons in the history of the muslims before MIRZA GHULAM AHMED QADIANI. One of them was Musailma Kazab that was beheaded by Hazrat Abu Bakr R.A.

  I hope that you get my point.

  Please wait for my response of remaining two questions. I am trying my level best to arrange ENGLISH translation of those books. Since such books are originally written in ARABIC and URDU by MIRZA GHULAM AHMED QADIANI. May Allah be it so, I am trying to make some sort of arrangement and hope that I will be successful.

  Regards

• Dear M. Ali

  The whole discussion you have made can be segregated into three main points:

  1. You have read the books of your prophet and have not found any abusive language. Fine, as I promised in my last conversation that I shall provide you exact references from his books so I am liable to do so and definitely I will provide you.

  2. You have said that if Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani has made false claim then he would be punished. Brother, I will give you references from the Qura'an in which the believers of the Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani shall also be punished. Even that you will point out that Oh Lord I have followed his teachings and he has betrayed us. Almighty Allah would not leave the believers. I will give you exact quranic references.

  3. You have said that he has not used abusive language against the Holy Prophet Hazrat ESA A.S. Ok, I am also arranging references for you from his books.

  All the above references shall be provided, just tell me one thing:

  Do you understand Urdu language OR If I provide you references from his books that are written in URDU language, Is it easier for you to find out English version of the same books?

  If you could not then give me three to four days, I shall try my level best to arrange references in English version.

  Waiting for your kind reply

  Regards

• Imran should be ashamed of himself for supporting such religious discrimination.

• بسم اللہ الرحمن الرحیم Mr. Shan Ibrahim: We are in the process of Moving and unfortunately at this time Original روحانی خزائین are not available at this time, every language has its own phrases and they are never literary translated and Arabic is not an exception to it like, ابن السبیل , likewise ذریعۃ البغایہ not necessarily means children of prostitutes, it could mean worldly or illiterate people who have had no touch of spirituality. If this be vulgar language for you, what you will say about Holy Quran using the phrases of abu-lahab, فی جید ہا حبل من۔۔ and بعد ذالک زنیم and عبد الطاغوت there could be found many more such phrases in the Holy Quran, if that is vulgar language???. Every thing should be seen in its own perspectives. Zarif Ahmad

• Mr. Zarif I left comments yesterday for you and such comments are not appearing. I don;t know what is the problem

• perhaps your comments were removed by the editor?

• Thank you for sharing your opinion. I have requested in my previous post to Mr. Ali that all the verses of the Holy Qur'an that are presented by your preachers in relation to the death of Hazrat Esa A.S may be consulted from the books of the famous quranic translators and illustrators whose translations and illustrations were published before the birth of Ghulam Ahmed. In my post I have referred some of those books. Such illustrators are also considered as MUJADDID (Remade) by your community as well. (Reference name of aforementioned illustrators / translators are written in abook named ASAL-E-MUSAFFA Volume 1 and Page 162 to 165; Written by one of the follower of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed named Mirza Khuda Bukhsh; Book is also endorsed by Mirza Ghulam Ahmed).

  I guarantee you no illustrator / translator / Mujaddid believes that Hazrat Esa A.S diet and never come back and instead of him another Messiah will come. If you admit the teachings of your community it means that the knowledge of the Quran before the birth of Ghulam Ahmed was not completely disclosed or all the illustrators / translators / Mujaddid / Remade were liars (Astagh fi rullah)

  I feel that you want to know the truth and want to follow the true preachings of Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W. So, you have only one option that is consult the illustrations and translations of famous Illustrators and Mujaddid and find out what they think regarding descent of Hazrat Esa Ibn Maryam.

  Further, I have referred signs of the Hazrat Esa in my previous post that are told by the last prophet Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W and this saying is quoted by Hazrat Abu Huraira and Imam Bukhari and Muslim collected it in Bukhari and Muslim Sharif. 6 signs are told:

  1. Promised Messiah will be the son of Mary A.S
  2. He will be the just ruler
  3. Cross-Sign (crusade sign) will be broken by him
  4. He will kill the pigs
  5. Islam will be accepted by the whole world
  6. People in his Era becomes so much rich

  and one more sign that are also proved from the sayings he will kill the anti-christ. If you feel that this is not true so I am not liable for it. I can only tell you the truth whether you accept it or reject it.

  I pray to Almighty Allah, May He protect you and me from the burning flames of Hell and keep our hearts enlightened from the true teachings of His true Last Prophet Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W

• Dear

  Further, verses of the Quran that are presented by your preachers as evidence of non-ending of the prophecy on Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W. Such verses may also be consulted from the explanation of the Illustrators / translators / Mujaddid before the birth of Ghulam Ahmed.
  I guarantee you all the scholars are agreed on the End of the prophecy on Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W.
  You must consult it. I have named all those illustration books in my previous post addressed to Mr. M.Ali.
  After knowing the faith of Illustrators / Mujaddid before the birth of Ghulam Ahmed you will have to decide one thing:
  1. the teachings of the Holy Quran was not completely disclosed before the birth of Ghulam Ahmed. This believes shall also be against the teachings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. As he wrote in his book that Meanings and Knowledge of the Qur’an is bestowed to the UMMAH (believers of the Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W) since the revelation of the Qur’an. “This book is available to the Muslim community since 14th centuries, likewise knowledge of this book is also found in the Muslim community”. (Ref: Khazain Vol 14; Page 288)
  2. All Illustrators / Mujaadid were liars
  I hope that you understand my point.
  Further my prayers and best wishes are with you. I pray May Allahenlighten your heart.
  Furthermore, I am student and in the first week of december I have to appear in my exams. May be I could not response you upto one month
  Regards